Electronics Revisited, LLC

One of our specialties is the HP 8640B signal generator.  We have an extensive inventory of OEM spare parts and are so confident in our ability to repair and maintain these units that we offer a fixed price repair service.

The HP 8640B is fantastic piece of engineering; it is a signal generator that is rugged, stable, and exceptionally reliable.  We specialize in test equipment at Electronics Revisited, LLC, and have a particular expertise in several models, of which the 8640B is one.

We are writing this to help those who may be interested in purchasing a used 8640B with the hope that this article will help you understand the strengths and weaknesses of this unit and ask the seller pertinent questions to make your purchase a good one.

The basic 8640B covered from 500 kHz to 512 MHz; it can over-range above and below these limits.  There are four basic options that are  available.  Option 001 allows the user to expand the AM modulation band up to 600 KHz (The base model has two modulation frequencies, 400 Hz and 1 kHz).  Option 002 expands the output frequency with an internal doubler up to 1024 MHz.  Option 003 provides for up to 50 Watts of reverse power protection.  Option 004 is primarily for avionics testing.

Regarding Option 002, although the base model only goes up to 512 MHz, the front panel  dial has a last detent of "512-1024" MHz.  Buyer beware here: all the models have this frequency range selection.  If Option 002 is not included, this section of the range has a black background; if Option 002 is included, this will appear on a white background AND Option 002 should appear stamped on the rear options label.  When a base model (without Option 002) is switched to this high band, the display will automatically double--this is for convenience only as it is assumed by HP that you are using an external doubler if Option 002 isn't installed. 

Option 004, which was designed primarily for working on aircraft avionics, offers expanded and precise AM depths to test VOR, ILS and COM radios. Option 004 also offers a 1 dB output step attenuator in addition to the standard 10 dB steps.

Fixed Price Repair Service  $289 + s/h.  Read details below for limitations.

Electronics Revisited is pleased to offer a complete

FIXED PRICE repair service for HP 8640Bs


Our charge to repair these units and bring them back to full functionality is $289.00 plus shipping. We guarantee all repairs purchased through our web site for a period of 45 days, parts and labor.  We also offer FREE repair advice if you want to “go it alone.”  Contact us for free email troubleshooting.

As part of the repair process, we will not only fix your unit but also replace the RF/FM switch assembly with a fully rebuilt one.  All the gears on our rebuilt assemblies are fully intact with no through cracks, and all contact fingers on the HP custom contact wheels have been reseated to ensure you a long life. Your unit will be returned to you with all functions fully operational and with the frequency display calibrated against our GPS disciplined frequency source.

Before sending any unit in for repair, contact us; we will discuss your particular unit’s symptoms, and we will ask you for the serial number as well as any installed options. Once we accept your unit for repair, we will send you a Return-Repair Authorization number and packing information.

Certain restrictions and limitations apply to HP 8640B fixed price repairs:

- Some option 004 and 323 units may be excluded.
- We are offering a repair service, not a refurbishment service.    We assume you had a working unit that failed, not a "parts unit" or something you purchased from Ebay or a flea market that was a junker from the start. (See our free email help for such units.)
- Frequency doublers on option 002 units may not be repariable.
- Does not cover cosmetic items (scratches, broken knobs, etc.).
- Does not cover broken AM or FM slider switches ($50 extra).
- Does not cover shipping damage.
- Does not include repairing the external frequency counter input ($50 extra).

We will repair the internal counter and that may or may not fix the external input. 

Contact us prior to purchase so we can discuss your particular unit’s symptoms.  Often, what seems like multiple problems turns out to be a single problem causing multiple symptoms.  It is very likely we can help you for the fixed price.  Once we agree to repair a unit at the fixed price, we will NOT come back to you and ask for more money for more repairs; be honest with us and we'll be honest with you. We work closely with all our clients to ensure satisfaction.

Some things you should know about the HP 8640B


Things to Look For Before Purchasing an 8640B:


If considering a purchase from a third party like eBay, look closely at the unit's front panel. All models of the 8640B have the ability to select internal or external AM or FM modulation.  The switches for this selection are located near the left middle of the unit.  Look closely at the pictures.  These switches (same with the RF power on/off switch on the far right) are a weak point in the 8640B design. The small lever arms of these switches break easily if the unit is dropped or abused. If you can't see the small paddle arm of the switch, then it is likely broken and you won't be able to fix it without very extensive removal of internal components. If the arm is intact, it will likely remain so. It is only broken through rough handling. Likewise, look closely at all the remaining controls and inspect pictures for cracked or missing control knobs.

If a picture of the rear panel is available from the seller, note if the two plastic rear feet are visible on the right side of the unit. It is not uncommon for one or both of these to be broken off. They are located just to the left of the power port connection. This is not a problem if you are using this as a bench unit. The rear feet only help stabilize the unit if it is tipped up on its back end. There may be up to five feet on the bottom of the unit. Again, not a critical point if they are missing. These feet are designed so that you can stack HP equipment one on top of the other (We generally remove the feet on any HP equipment we have in house. We find they tend to get in the way more than anything.) The only advantage that we have found with the feet is that some units come with a tilt stand in the front that attaches to the front two feet--a nice feature if you don't have a test equipment bench or shelving in front of you on which to rest the unit.

Other trouble spots are the several incandescent bulbs on either side of the power meter which indicate the meter scale (left side) and various over-range (right side) conditions. It is not unusual for one or more of these bulbs to burn out. You really can't tell from a picture if the bulb has failed because they only illuminate under the correct conditions. When we refurbish a unit, we will replace these bulbs with bulbs that have a slightly higher voltage rating to insure long life.  Make sure that potential sellers have tested all six bulbs.

The 8640B uses a mechanically tuned cavity oscillator to set a very stable frequency output. The tuning assembly sits directly behind the tuning knob. If the inside of this assembly is dirty or contaminated, the result may be that the unit will drop out of oscillation, usually at one end or the other of the limit stops.  Again, ask the seller to guarantee the frequency adjustment knob operates over its entire range. Complete tuning across the entire selected band is accomplished with about eight turns of the tuning knob. There is a fine tuning adjustment just to the right of the main knob that adjusts to 200 ppm. Restabilization time after tuning is very short, about 15 minutes for better than 20 ppm. There is also a phase-lock button that will lock in the frequency and also allow for a 1/2 of scale extension of accuracy (1/2 of least significant digit). Note: There are several failure modes associated with the fine tuning knob; ask the seller if the fine tuning knob works correctly.

Many of these units have minor dents and dings in their cases; this is usually not a problem. HP designed these units well, and they are fairly robust mechanically.  Dents and dings should not pose a problem.

It is always best if you can spot a picture where the unit is turned on and both the frequency meter and the analog meter are displaying properly. Ideally, the analog meter should be set to display the output power; however, it may be difficult to discern if the output button is depressed versus the modulation buttons (one meter--three selector switches). The frequency display on the 8640B is a stand alone frequency counter that can send a phase lock signal back to the oscillator to lock in the signal. If the digital display is showing a value that corresponds to the frequency range selector you are assured that the oscillator is operating and that the range selector switch is probably operating. If the meter is set to read power output and it is also displaying a value, you are now very assured that the basic operation of the oscillator, frequency counter, and power output stages are good. What remains is the AM and FM modulation sections, and a reputable seller will guarantee and perhaps offer a warranty on the unit (warranties are available on almost everything we sell.  If we don't offer a warranty, we will offer full disclosure).

We have highlighted some of the weaknesses and strengths of this model.  There are many other issues that are too numerous to list.  Various versions of this signal generator were produced with slight nuances such as display resolution, 1/2 digit display in phase-lock mode, changes in the knob design, internal changes in the selector switch designs, etc.

The 8640B is a very durable and reliable piece of test equipment.  Parts or equivalent substitutions are still available, and any problems may be easily diagnosed down to the component level.  There are many sources of schematics and operations manuals available in the public domain. A well maintained 8640B should offer you a long and reliable life. Your best defense is to purchase from a good and established seller who can offer you at least a guarantee of functionality and perhaps a warranty on any unit you buy.

If you have any questions on the 8640B, please don't hesitate to contact us. Even if you're not purchasing from us, we are still more than willing to help you with tips and questions, where to locate documentation, parts, etc.
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